Updated: 5 Minutes To Self-Immolation Of The Israeli Empire

Israel Shahak wrote a foreword to his translation of Oded Yinon’s 1982 paper for the World Zionist Organization which revealed Zion’s plans for America, Israel, the Mideast and the world. The Israelis claim all the land in the Mideast from the Nile to the Euphrates. All America has to do is to evict all 300 million people already living there. Wesley Clark was given a list of 7 Muslim nations after 911 that America was to invade. That 2001 hit list originated in Israel in 1982. The last nations on that list  are Syria and Iran.

Today I would hope to prove that if America attacks Syria and Iran for Israel even risking war with Russia, then the Israeli Empire will self-immolate and the America we knew will die. The words 5 Minutes in the title refers to the undeniable fact that it will take Syria and Iran 5 Minutes to sink the American Persian Gulf and Mediterranean fleets, eviscerate the US Central Command and send America into a Depression so severe that I think it should be called the Greatest Starvation. Only 3 to 4 million Americans died in the last Depression. I think at least 10 million Americans and half a billion people worldwide will die from starvation if we do not use Debt Cancellation to avert disaster.

The Iranians have hundreds of small boats armed with Russian made anti-ship missiles designed to sink American aircraft carriers. Those would be the N-22 Sunburn (Mach 2.1) and the N-26 Onyx (Mach 3). They also have the Chinese made C-802 which has a 165 kg (364 pound) warhead. They have rocket artillery with ranges of 65, 92 and 130 miles (100, 150 and 210 km). This rocket artillery includes the Zelzal-2 meaning “Earthquake”. It is a 610 mm heavy artillery rocket with a 600 kg (1,323 lb) warhead. The missile is based on the Soviet FROG-7 missile.

Iran has 20 submarines. Their Russian designed torpedoes have a top speed of 360 km/h (223.7 mph).

The Iranians have many other anti-ship missiles that can be launched from small and medium sized boats from the land and from helicopters and jets.

The Iranians electronically hijacked an advanced CIA stealth drone proving they are not a primitive nation. Iran has a drone with a 1,000 km range capable of firing 4 missiles or dropping a 500 pound bomb (227 Kgs). Hezbollah has drones too. They launched drones over Israel which gave them sufficient information to knock out the Israeli electrical grid for six months if either Syria or Hezbollah is attacked.

I suppose I should point out that 40% of all oil tanker traffic goes through the Strait of Hormuz. All Iran has to do is to threaten to sink all oil tankers going through the Strait to force London insurers to shut down oil traffic out of the Gulf and drive oil to $300 a barrel.

Perform this thought experiment. Suppose the US launches 1,000 slow moving cruise missiles at Syria. Syria would be justified if it fired back especially if they waited for 40, 50 or 100 missiles to be launched.  Syria has Russian N-26 anti-ship missiles. They are unstoppable by the US and were designed to sink American aircraft carriers. If the Syrians damaged but deliberately did not sink one of the American destroyers, would Obama take the hint and go home or would he escalate? If he escalates, the Syrians could escalate and sink the American fleet and even take out American air base at Incerlik in Turkey.

The Iranians would be justified to defend their treaty ally. Iran could sink our Persian Gulf fleet and take out all 35 American Central Command bases near them. This would lead to the death or capture of American troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States.

Oil would zoom up to $350 and then to $500 a barrel. The American economy will fall off the cliff into a Depression which as I said could be called the Great Starvation.

Israel will have at least 150,000 incoming missiles from Hezbollah, Syria and Iran. Hezbollah has 300 or more M-600 guided missiles with 1,000 pound warheads and is capable of turning Tel Aviv into a parking lot. The Syrians created a National Defense Force (NDF) which has 100,000 trained militia men and soon will have 150,000. Many of these men are loyal to Hezbollah and are armed with missiles capable of striking Israel.

As an exercise, you might calculate what will be left of the Israeli population if the 2,000 most industrialized and most populous square miles in Israel were hit by 1,000 thousand pound fuel air explosives and by 1,000 thousand pound conventional bombs. Hint 1: 42% of Israeli Jews live in 528 square miles of metropolitan Tel Aviv. Hint 2: A fuel air explosive has 4 times the impact of a conventional bomb. Fires and explosives require oxygen. A fuel air explosive burns up all the oxygen in the atmosphere in a radius of half a mile or more so it has more room for explosives in the warhead.

What do you think will happen to that leaky Israeli nuclear power plant at Dimona if it is hit directly by 7, 9 or even 12 missiles with 1,000 pound warheads? Would a nuclear meltdown improve the health of the Israelis who managed to survive those 150,000 incoming missiles and were living in the dark without hospitals?

Might I take this opportunity to point out what the former head of the IDF Gabi Ashkenazi has said about attacking Iran and Syria. He said, “It is STUPID.” Or was that the former head of the MOSSAD Meir Dagan who said people who want war are STUPID. Israel cannot survive. The American Jews who are pushing the Democrats and the Republicans to war are insane.

Please consider that Iran is an ally of China and Russia through the Shanghai Cooperation Organization in which they have Observer status. The Iranians made secret alliances with the Pakistani military after the US killed those 24 Pakistani soldiers on November 26, 2011. Pakistan has lots of Hydrogen bombs. Of more immediate concern is that Russian task force in the Mediterranean. What plan does Washington have to avoid escalating a missile exchange between Syria and Israel and Russia into a thermonuclear war?

What would Obama, Bernanke and Mario Draghi at the European Central bank do if China began selling hundreds of billions of dollars in Treasury bonds while simultaneously buying gold, oil, silver, food and other commodities? The Chinese press could taunt Americans saying that they had their chance to wean themselves away from importing oil. Now they can pay $500 a barrel for oil. Americans could scurry around to earn $5,000 to buy an ounce of gold to buy anything from overseas.

A Navy JAG officer (lawyer) recently said their offices were inundated with calls from flag officers who wanted a legal basis to refuse an order to attack Iran and to refuse to arrest American civilians without trial and render them to foreign prisons for torture. The JAG officers are thinking that they should apply the Geneva Convention to American civilians and defend them in military court. The JAG officer also said that military officers do not want to arrest Americans without trial because they would be turned into a sieve meaning Americans have at least 300 million guns and 10 billion bullets.

I suppose this is where I explain Oded Yinon and the Zionists really believe Israel has the right to all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates river in Iraq. They believe they have the right to destroy every Muslim nation that would say No to Zionist insanity. Why should America suffer self-immolation because Israel thinks national suicide just like at Masada is a wonderful idea?

Israel could respond by firing 400 thermonuclear weapons at Muslims, Europeans, Russians and even Americans  because we did not do enough to prove we loved them. Of course that level of radiation added to Fukushima would kill 98% of the people in the northern Hemisphere but it is your duty to die for Israel. At least, that is what the preacher said on the radio before he asked me to send him money.

If we do not decisively say No to Israel and to Zionism very soon, we will all be doomed to what we deserve.

This is an update of the article I posted on New Years Eve of 2011. It was the most widely read essay I ever wrote. Israel has been threatening war with Iran for decades to no avail. The American and Israeli professional military know it is suicide. Attacking Syria is also suicide.

Since the bankers run the governments, I think a better option for them would be to launch a cyber attack on the banks of the US and Europe, to blame the Iranians and the Syrians or even the Chinese and to steal your bank accounts, mutual funds, pensions and whatever is not underneath your mattress.

If the bankers order an attack, they run the risk that the military will say NO. Only 9% of Americans support the war. And only 8% of the British public supports the war.

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About horse237

I have decided to share two of the visions I had as a child. When I was eight, I had a vision of a future war that killed 99.5% of the world's population. When I was 16 and living in the projects, I had a vision of my future. I was to live in complete obscurity until it came time to stop WW III. When I was about ten, I had read a bio of Nikita Khrushchev which said he survived Stalin by playing the bumbling fool an old Russian peasant trick. I decided to do the same as I had already learned that we did not live in a democracy. The other vision I had when I was in third grade was of the Mind of God and how it interacted in the creation of the world we see. I believe you and I were born at this time precisely so we would have an opportunity to stop this war. As for my personal info, I grew up on military bases and in housing projects. My legs atrophied from starvation as a child. My second step-father died in prison. I used to have to rub my skin to simulate human contact. They did not feed me when I was a child. I do not fight in their wars as an adult.
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44 Responses to Updated: 5 Minutes To Self-Immolation Of The Israeli Empire

  1. A Countervailing Thesis says:

    “Oded Yinon and the Zionists really believe Israel has the right to all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates river in Iraq. They believe they have the right to destroy every Muslim nation that would say No to Zionist insanity. Why should America suffer self-immolation because Israel thinks national suicide just like at Masada is a wonderful idea?”

    There are countervailing views:


  2. Mark R. Elsis | Lovearth.net says:


  3. serious says:

    And, arguably, Barack and Michelle Obama are included in the crazy American Jew group.

  4. horse237 says:

    Most of the insane people who follow the dictates of the NWO are not Jewish. But resistance is growing. Cameron just lost the vote for war against Syria. Only 9% of Americans support war.

    • heroay says:

      Most may not be ashkenazis (95% of the pack) but their masters ARE. Working for a bank may not make the teller an ashkenazi-khazar-sephardic, nor a Ziotic, but the owners ARE. And since the masters ARE ashkenazis (like the RAT-a-childs in London), or ‘jews’ (an INVENTED TAG of the 13th c AD to INCLUDE these khazars AND ashkenazis as biblical squatters of Palestine in the Christ’s time), it IS the ‘jews’, ashkenazis and khazars who are directing the ‘Jew World Order’ against humanity. And must be exposed for what they ARE, not for what they ‘wear’… like, “Zionists, Commies, Globalists, Illuminati…” ad nauseam. TAGS, labels, rags, to cover their identity and their crimes.

  5. Nada says:

    “lack of support” has slowed the monsters down on a few
    rare occasions.
    But never stopped them.
    The beast won’t be denied.

    • horse237 says:

      I think we are talking about collapse. The only reason to attack Syria is because they want a war to get more control of the people just like WW II. I think we will get a collapse without a war and the bankers lose. At least that is one of the more optimistic outcomes.

  6. serious says:

    A couple of weeks ago, Alex Jones misled his listeners by telling them that Clark has relayed that those seven Arab countries are to be invaded ON BEHALF of Saudi Arabia. Btw, yours is the first article I read that reports that document originated in Israel, although that fact does not surprise me.

    • Gene says:

      Alex Jones is a loud mouthed shill just like Rush Limbaugh. They have misled millions of their listeners with their fear mongering and hate. Years ago I used to read articles and blogs by Kurt Nimmo. I contributed by commenting on his blogs and by donations. All of a sudden he disappeared and his website shut down. Nimmo said he was getting death threats by phone calls and emails.
      Now all of a sudden he shows up and now writing for Alex Jones. We all have a breaking point and as much as I respected Kurt Nimmo, he sold out. I don’t blame him. Lesser men have sold out for less. Nimmo has a family to consider too.

      He said that Fox reporter, Bill O’reilly is a CIA operative and has powerful connections and clout. I still remember the email with Nimmo about Bill O’reilly that I sent to him warning him to be careful. I considered Nimmo a friend and patriot.

      I can only surmise that Kurt Nimmo’s hiatus was due to Bill O’reilly.

      This article is very good and inspiring. A 9 per cent approval for war by Americans is 9 per cent too much.

      In 2006 I wrote an essay about a coming new president who would be illegally placed in office. I thought for sure it would be Arnold Schwarzennegar since he is Austrian. Instead, we got Barack Obama. I was right. In the same essay I criticized American Christian Evangelism for enabling and supporting war. Zionism has infiltrated Christianity so severely that it has become insanely pro war and pro Israel. Those two stances are intertwined.

      Reverand Ted Pike published an article similar to mine. It was refreshing to see a Christian actually not endorsing war or Israel and actually criticizing Jews for their obvious hatred against Gentiles and genocide.

      Personally, I have always felt a connection to the Palestinian people. Recently I was shocked to discover that I am genetically linked to the Semitic area and that I am a Sephardic Jew. No wonder I feel conflicted internally. I have a love for truth, peace, and follow The Cross of Christ. Being Jewish answers many questions as to why my family is obsessed with money and materialism. Whether this is an inherited trait or not, I condemn and renounce them. I am poor and was homeless last year. In my poverty I have learned many things about myself and thank God for the experiences I went through. Some were good and many were bad.

      If massive poverty comes our way, at least I am prepared mentally and spiritually.
      Peace to all in Christ our redeemer and inheritance.

      • heroay says:

        Gene, don’t make much of this, but personally, i would say you have given in THIS ONE life, one more step up the ladder of inner evolution. It is not what race you were born into, or what religious belief you hold. It is how HUMAN you are, not only above the beast of the field, but of those who still crawl as evolutionary babies, making the grossest of mistakes, karmic, “…for they know not what they do.” But you already know. Cheers.

  7. horse237 says:

    General Clark said it came from Rumsfeld. But He was a member of PNAC. Their doctrine began as a position paper written for PM Bibi Netanyahu.

  8. serious says:

    “Mazel Tov — a Growing Number of People Believe that Barack Obama is Jewish — poll shows” — posted at RT.com on 10/29. Dr. khazem Khaleel has been presenting evidence of this, at NoDisinfo.com. For sure, Mrs. Soetoro professed agnosticism.

    • Steven says:

      Being a jew is not a matter of religious belief, it is a matter of race and nationality.
      If jews have any kind of a religious belief it centers around the question of what is good for the jews and not about respect for the teachings and commandments of a god. Everything else is a smoke screen to decieve the gentiles.

      • serious says:

        Judaism is an ideology and there are many African Jews, a close relative of Michelle Obama (perhaps an uncle) being a rabbi. In the middle of his dissecting the perverseness of Christian Zionism, in a series at VeteransToday.com, yesterday Jonas E. Alexis posted part 1 of:

        “The Zionist Regime Will Seek to Destroy Syria and Iran”.

        His concluding remark there is that the subversion of America is:
        “essentially and theologically Masonic, and this Masonic invasion was the backdrop of the French Revolution. It subverted the moral order than, and it has already subverted both the political and moral order in America. An essential element of that Masonic ideology is to bring about the domination of Israel.”
        According to the latest poll, 65% of Israelis want the American military (but not Israel’s} to attack Syria, and so… .

  9. Netzband says:

    hallo, Your article took me immediately into another direction of thinking, though I never thought military equipment would play a role like that, it is because we have been deceived about the relations as they are in reality. In the last wars something was wrong: “desert storm” was a miserable show to demoralize anyone thinking about resistance to the “all powerful” NWO. Could be so, no? The attack on GAZA may have been also for that reason, but against Hezbollah, the IDF got beaten out of Lebanon. I watched their videos at the time.
    The plans, the Oded Yinon plan was from 1982, “Aclean Break” later and I*m sure You know about the PNAC given and conjured by the Neocons in the 90s. Just to repeat, what I had noted: -the url to the document-pdf ( if it’s still there) is on http://globalresearch.ca/articles/NAC304A.html
    on page 51 (somerimes 63) it reads (and it was before 911):
    …” Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a leadership.new Pearl Harbor.Domestic politics and industrial policy will shape the pace and content of transformation as much as the requirements of current missions….”
    thanks and best

    • Netzband says:

      mistake: in the sentence: “like a leadership.new Pearl Harbor.” – the word leadership slipped in, (copy from pdf) it isn’ there originally: “”like a .new Pearl Harbor” it should read.

    • horse237 says:

      Now I see where the mistake in the text was.

      About that war against Iraq. The first war and the sanctions were designed to disarm them before the invasion and occupation of the second war. The US does not have sufficient power to wage a war against a real enemy with weapons. America has reached the limits of its Empire that it inherited from Great Britain.

      Even the American public is against this war as they can clearly see it will be a disaster for the US.

      • Netzband says:

        horse237 – what I wrote about a mistake, it was in my own comment just above, where I cited from page 51 (sometimes63 -?) of the PNAC-document ( original pdf ) – where the word ” leadership ” slipped in by copying the sentence. Thanks for your answer and the article of course. In one of the videos that were shown from Hezbollah at the time of the aggression by the IDF, was also shown, when they fired a single rocket against a ship – and during the Iraq-war also one single anti-ship rocket was fired, but hit a wall in the harbor only (Basra?). I can imagine that you are right with your prediction.
        wish you well and that your eye recovers well.

      • serious says:

        We hope you are having a healthy recovery from your eye surgery, dear vidrebel.

      • serious says:

        We hope you are having a healthy recovery, dear horse.

  10. jo6pac says:

    Iran also has some really good satellites to listen and see what is going on down on their side of the earth. I’m sure Syria has a link to that info also.
    Thanks great write up.

    • horse237 says:

      I will wrote another column on this subject. I still do not see a war. But there are dire consequences for this illegitimate government in Washington.

  11. It is difficult to comprehend the ways that the long history of warfare, where success was based on deceits, has gradually created a civilization controlled by the most criminally insane people, while the vast majority of people refuse to understand the deeper reasons for why that had to happen, which are that the MUST be some human ecology, with death controls as central to the control of everything else. The ACTUAL human ecology that we have is one operated through the maximum possible deceits, and that pretty well includes everyone. There are NO “good guys.”

    The problem with the article above is that it does not seem to include the notions about just how criminally insane the ruling classes really are! Presuming that Iran, et alia, fight back as suggested in this article (which I believe they could possibly do), then I would expect Israel and the USA to attack them much more, including all out nuclear war, which will wipe out tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of people in the region. Furthermore, if China and Russia then get involved, we are talking about the relatively sudden death of billions of people, with the survivors ending up envying the already dead.

    The problem with imagining those scenarios is that the ruling classes ARE that criminally insane, to be able and willing to risk those kinds of consequences, in the quest to consolidate their global hegemony of their established systems. There can be no reasonable doubt that the dominant powers will continue to push their agenda for their force backed frauds to create a global government, where they continue to have the power to make “money” out of nothing, as debts, while everyone else has to continue to accept that, which means that those people who can make that “money” out of nothing will have continued to successfully rob everything worth robbing, since their monetary system will enable them to buy everything that can be bought.

    Since it is almost impossible to imagine that those who dominate that fundamentally fraudulent financial system now would ever be willing to let go of that control, but rather, they will surely continue to attempt to consolidate their control, and ARE criminally insane enough to go for broke, attempting to complete their agenda, therefore, a few more paragraphs to this article above should be added. Namely, after Iran, et alia, fight back, then they will be bombed into oblivion, triggering more of the same in many other places, eventually resulting in hundreds of millions, if not billions of people being murdered. THE PROBLEM IS THAT THE CURRENT RULING CLASSES ARE CRIMINALLY INSANE ENOUGH TO DO THAT!

    • horse237 says:

      I have discussed the insanity of the leaders before. Tomorrow morning I should post a new article. It is time we went past the Empire phase and began working on a new agenda to rebuild the world.

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  13. Dublinsmick says:

    Did you say cyber attack?

    More from Big Sis.

    Not if but when


    Strange electronic problems in the northeast

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  15. aryandawn says:

    I’ve read Israel Shahak book about the real history of the jews, there is even a foreword by Gore Vidal saying that Harry Truman was only elected President because the jews gave him a bag of Money for the recognition of the bandit country.

  16. heroay says:

    Something’s missing in Texe Marrs’ comments on ‘jews’ (http://tinyurl.com/nb4wg3f). He and a number of writers insist in gluing both Khazars and Ashkenazis as ONE people. Deceit, or ignorance? Ashkenazis are a section of the parasite squatters who started their migration from Shinar=Babel=Babylon some 4 thousand years ago, and polluted every step of their way through Palestine, squatted Egypt and were ejected from there, then returned to Palestine, spread around the Mediterranean, invaded Europe, even China, and finally jumped across the Atlantic to the Americas, to submerge all nations possible into their subterfuge, rapine, treachery, and genocidal wars. A far better explanation was presented by the Germans back around 1939 in their film documentary “The Eternal (parasite) Jew”. Google.

    Also, quite visible, Khazar-Turk-Mongols are white, generally blond, NOT balding after 40, NO fetid ugly beards, and have small oriental eyes.

    Ashkenazis, quite visibly, have dark skin, hooked noses, generally black hair and fetid beards, go bald-global heads after 40, and have large, often right-twisted, mouths and thick lips. Already a proposed relation to the missing Neanderthals, since all that OT glorious gibberish seems quite like invented to dupe their followers, and later, the world at large, but not corroborated by science or archeology. “Revenge of the Neanderthal”. Google.

    Also, IF believable, Ashkenazis were spawned by Ashkenaz-Gomer-Yapheth-Noah, while Khazars were spawned by Magog-Yapheth-Noah. Both, cousins of the ‘Semites’ through Issac-Abraham, Eber-Shem-Noah. And ‘Semites’, and ‘cousins’ through Issac, include the despised Edumean-Pharisees. Messy.

    • horse237 says:

      I would not put much faith in Biblical sources as the Jewish writers were copying ideas and stories that were a thousand to two thousand years old when they wrote them down.

      Generically, the Ashkenazi Jews are Khazars and Slavic mixed with Germans and others added in. I wrote previously of meeting two married Jewish women in the space of a year who admitted they got pregnant by Gentile men so they could have good looking daughters.

      The Sephardim are converted Canaanites, Philistines, Edomites, Arabs, Berbers and part Turkish. A Sephardic Jewish woman told me that the Turks always wanted to get Jewish women pregnant.

      The Jews are not a race. They are not a religion. They are a people with a collective identity that leads them to falsely believe they are ‘Special.’ Their leaders are insane and operate a criminal enterprise.

      • heroay says:

        Of course the OT is a heap of tall tales, and merely a ‘guide’ to the origin of the present mess, but visibly, the differences between the Khazar-Turk-Mongols and the Ashkenazis, is like night to day. They cannot be from the same cradle. Physically opposed.

        A referenced ‘jew’ exodus from Babylon in the 11th c. AD, after the Khazar ‘conversion’ to ‘judaism’-Talmudism in 740 AD, seems like the time when these Ashkenazi pests came out of former Shinar (Babel, Babylon) and contaminated the world with their presence, intermixing with anyone they could. Or be allowed.

        This particular breed is the one referenced to, and recorded, in “The Eternal Jew” by Nazi Germans. Not the blond Khazars. Ashkenazis are already proposed to be the missing Neanderthals. And their traits and looks justify the theory.

        Also, while the Sephardim carry a single genetic defect in their DNA, Ashkenazis carry a full 21 of these (but not Khazars), singled out on the entire planet, and possibly linked to millennial inbreeding (so ugly!).

        That’s another reason they have to intermarry shiksas and have their blood rituals; to clean their decadent, inbred genetic code, which forces them to have a DNA sampling before they marry another Ashkenazi. Only ones on earth.

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  23. Tom says:

    Dear horse237
    What an amazing blog of yours, but not so much by what you said but by what your commenter’s had to say because of what you had said. But what a shame that you think that they murdered JFK because he exposed something about Nuclear weapons when in fact the most obvious reason why they assassinated him, as they had done to 3 presidents before him, was because they like him, had attempted to create a public owned debt free currency. And the second reason why they would have wanted JFK dead was because of his speech about secret societies.
    ..And we all know who is behind all of those secret societies don’t we!
    And on the current subject of Alex Jones verses Dr David Duke, I reckon that Alex Jones deliberately let David Duke say so much about the Jews because he is currently totally pissed off by his Jewish wife getting to steal his fortune from him by her using the means of Jewish laws and Jewish lawyers.
    Please do not give up so easily Horse. Just because your predictions haven’t turned out when you predicted they would then don’t be thinking that they were incorrect predictions.
    They have been conducting their financial scams against us for 100’s of years now so a few percentage points of error in your timing is: “neither here nor there” is it…
    Their end game must surely be a one world currency which they own and control. It may take a while to happen but unless it is stopped in its tracks it will most surely happen one day but not before they have stolen all that they can do from us before then.

    • horse237 says:

      I have not given up.
      My goal is to something far more important.
      I had a vision when I was a child. A few years ago, I thought our time was up based upon a timeline dependent on my view of what elderly looked like to me when I was 8 years-old. I assure you that we are close to the end. We have hundreds of trillions of dollars to unwind and cancel. No economic system will survive until we have Debt Cancellation.

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