5 Minutes To Self-Immolation Of The Israeli Empire

Israel Shahak wrote a foreword to his translation of Oded Yinon’s 1982 paper for the World Zionist Organization which revealed Zion’s plans for America, Israel, the Mideast and the world. Wesley Clark was given a list of 7 Muslim nations 10 days after 911 that America was to invade. That 2001 hit list originated in Israel in 1982. The last nation on that list is Iran.

Today I would hope to prove that if America attacks Iran for Israel, then the Israeli Empire will self-immolate and the America we knew will die. The words 5 Minutes in the title refers to the undeniable fact that it will take Iran 5 Minutes to sink the American Persian Gulf fleet, eviscerate the US Central Command and send America into a Depression so severe that I think it should be called the Greatest Starvation.

The Iranians have hundreds of small boats armed with Russian made anti-ship missiles designed to sink American aircraft carriers. Those would be the N-22 Sunburn (Mach 2.1) and the N-26 Onyx (Mach 3). They also have the Chinese made C-802 which has a 165 kg (364 pound) warhead. They have rocket artillery with ranges of 65, 92 and 130 miles (100, 150 and 210 km). This rocket artillery includes the Zelzal-2 meaning “Earthquake”. It is a 610 mm heavy artillery rocket with a 600 kg (1,323 lb) warhead. The missile is based on the Soviet FROG-7 missile.

Iran has 20 submarines. Their Russian designed torpedoes have a top speed of 360 km/h (223.7 mph).

The Iranians have many other anti-ship missiles that can be launched from small and medium sized boats from the land and from helicopters and jets. See the reference below as they are too numerous to name.

The Iranians recently electronically hijacked an advanced CIA stealth drone proving they are not a primitive nation. Iran has a drone with a 1,000 km range capable of firing 4 missiles.

Perform this thought experiment. Suppose Israel launches 100 jets to attack Iran. What does the American Persian Gulf fleet do? Do they wait for the Iranians to launch ten thousand torpedoes, missiles and rocket artillery shells from more than a thousand locations? Do American fighter pilots scramble their jets and fly in circles waiting for the Israeli jets to show up an hour later? What if Iran issues an ultimatum to the American field commanders that launching their jets would be tantamount to a declaration of war?

In the first 5 Minutes every single ship without exception in the American Persian Gulf fleet will be sinking. In the first 5 Minutes every single base in the US Central Command will have multiple incoming missiles rapidly approaching and spelling doom for NATO troops.

Israel will have 150,000 incoming missiles from Hezbollah, Syria and Iran. Hezbollah has 300 or more M-600 guided missiles with 1,000 pound warheads and is capable of turning Tel Aviv into a parking lot.

As an exercise, you might calculate what will be left of the Israeli population if the 2,000 most industrialized and most populous square miles in Israel were hit by 1,000 thousand pound fuel air explosives and by 1,000 thousand pound conventional bombs. Hint 1: 42% of Israeli Jews live in 528 square miles of metropolitan Tel Aviv. Hint 2: A fuel air explosive has 4 times the impact of a conventional bomb. Fires and explosives require oxygen. A fuel air explosive burns up all the oxygen in the atmosphere in a radius of half a mile or more so it has more room for explosives.

Might I take this opportunity to point out what the only adult running for President of the United States has said:

The only thing Iran does not have is a plan to make a nuclear bomb.

I would like to make a suggestion:

I believe Iran has an advanced High Powered Microwave Electromagnetic Pulse (HPM EMP) defense system under construction. Israel does not want to attack Iran during winter cloud cover so the Iranians have a few months to prepare a welcome for those Israeli and American jets. I would suggest the Iranians reveal their top secret HPM EMP device either from Syria or Iran by disabling an American ship or a few jets or maybe both. This might be sufficient reason even for a fanatical Israeli to call off World War III. And why proceed with an attack that would be doomed to failure from EMP weapons?

Please consider that Iran is an ally of China and Russia through the Shanghai Cooperation Organization in which they have Observer status. The Iranians made secret alliances with the Pakistani military after the US killed those 24 Pakistani soldiers on November 26th. Pakistan has lots of Hydrogen bombs. Of more immediate concern is that Russian carrier task force in Syria. What plan does Washington have to avoid escalating a missile exchange between Syria and Israel and Russia into a thermonuclear war.

What would Obama, Geithner, Bernanke and Mario Draghi at the European Central bank do if China began selling hundreds of billions of dollars in Treasury bonds while simultaneously buying gold, oil, silver, food and other commodities? The Chinese press could taunt Americans saying that they had their chance to wean themselves away from importing 70% of their oil. Now they can pay $500 a barrel for oil. Americans could scurry around to earn $5,000 to buy an ounce of gold to buy anything from overseas.

What exactly is the Goldman Sachs plan for recovery after America reaches hyperinflation and 30% unemployment? Hint 3: All of those men named above are Goldman Sachs employees. Not one of them had a plan for recovery of the economy before 30% unemployment so I can guarantee you they will have none after you have direct personal experience with hyperinflation.

I suppose I should point out that 40% of all oil tanker traffic goes through the Strait of Hormuz. All Iran has to do is to threaten to sink all oil tankers going through the Strait to force London insurers to shut down oil traffic out of the Gulf and drive oil to %350 a barrel. Iran might elect to use an EMP weapon to disable an oil tanker in the Strait of Hormuz as opposed to mines or rocket artillery. The EMP device is more selective in its usage. And using it would reveal the sheer folly of an attack on Iran. This assumes the US and NATO use stepped up sanctions to attack Iran economically.

A Navy JAG officer (lawyer) recently said their offices were inundated with calls from flag officers who wanted a legal basis to refuse an order to attack Iran and to refuse to arrest American civilians without trial and render them to foreign prisons for torture. The JAG officers are thinking that they should apply the Geneva Convention to American civilians and defend them in military court. The JAG officer also said that military officers do not want to arrest Americans without trial because they would be turned into a sieve meaning Americans have at least 300 million guns and 10 billion bullets.

I suppose this is where I explain Oded Yinon and the Zionists really believe Israel has the right to all the land from the Nile to the Euphrates river in Iraq. They believe they have the right to destroy every Muslim nation that would say No to Zionist insanity. Why should America suffer self-immolation because Israel thinks national suicide just like at Masada is a wonderful idea?

If we do not decisively say No to Israel and to Zionism very soon, we will all be doomed to what we deserve.

Related Articles:

How Iran Can Collapse All of the Bilderberg Banks and Governments

http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/11/29/how-iran-can-collpase-all-of-the-bilderberg-banks-and-governments/

Israel Shahak: The Laws Against Non-Jews In 2 Minutes

http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/israel-shahak-political-consequences-in-2-minutes/

The Bankers Want America To Lose World War III

http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/08/08/the-bankers-want-america-to-lose-world-war-iii/

We Are Not Anti-Semites We Merely Oppose The Psychopathic Religion Judaism

http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/09/27/we-are-not-anti-semites-we-merely-oppose-the-psychopathic-religion-judaism/

Mr Wiesel, I Would Like To Ask You A Few Questions.

http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/08/28/mr-wiesel-i-would-like-to-ask-you-a-few-questions/

VIDEO- Ernst Zundel: Jewish Voraciousness Will Create Weimar Like Conditions In America And A Final Solutions For The Jews In The US

http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/07/17/video-ernst-zundel-jewish-voraciousness-will-create-weimar-like-conditions-in-america-and-a-final-solution-for-the-jews-in-the-us/

References: A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties by Oded Yinon

http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/articles/article0005345.html

The following article takes a look at Iran’s weapons.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/iran-outlines-key-steps-and-actors-potential-straits-hormuz-closure

The Plan — according to U.S. General Wesley Clark

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I have decided to share two of the visions I had as a child. When I was eight, I had a vision of a future war that killed 99.5% of the world's population. When I was 16 and living in the projects, I had a vision of my future. I was to live in complete obscurity until it came time to stop WW III. When I was about ten, I had read a bio of Nikita Khrushchev which said he survived Stalin by playing the bumbling fool an old Russian peasant trick. I decided to do the same as I had already learned that we did not live in a democracy. The other vision I had when I was in third grade was of the Mind of God and how it interacted in the creation of the world we see. I believe you and I were born at this time precisely so we would have an opportunity to stop this war. As for my personal info, I grew up on military bases and in housing projects. My legs atrophied from starvation as a child. My second step-father died in prison. I used to have to rub my skin to simulate human contact. They did not feed me when I was a child. I do not fight in their wars as an adult.
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100 Responses to 5 Minutes To Self-Immolation Of The Israeli Empire

  1. Howard T. Lewis III says:

    This is the type of excitement Bush43 used to tune in to militarystud.com for action @$250.00/hr. or $1250.00/weekend “specializing in bondage, discipline, and military themes If Frank Marshall Davis(Obama’s self-avowed mentor) has not had his criminal record erased, we would find details consistent with claims of Obama’s fellow church choir members who were murdered just after Obummer got the nomination. Obama is the most traitorous psychopathically passive, obedient, totally amoral president in history. It all spells lobotomy. Connecticut, 1979.

  2. Howard T. Lewis III says:

    The Pentagon business of 9-11 is 100% solved. Aremote-controlled A-3 commuter-converted with rocket launcher racks hit the pentagon with a rocket a split instant before it crashed through the new hole. A Global Hawk cruisemissle hit the same pentagon wall just to its right. Numerous photos identify many parts, including two 737/A-3 Skywarrior engines and global Hawk cruise missle fibreglass and composite shell material. One disintegrated jet engine inside and the other still in one battered piece outside. No israel anywhere. The Russians are being asked for any satellite footage proving allegations of a launch from the U.S.S George Washington carrier just off shore. A van load of 757 parts was hauled onsite for photo opportunities.

  3. JJ says:

    Hi. Great post. I’d like further info on the JAG officers. May I have some direction for further reading?

    • horse237 says:

      Sorry but that was an anonymous interview given over an Internet radio show I listen to. The person who had the conversation is usually reliable and did say the JAG officer was uniform. I grew up on military bases and always expected the greatest resistance to a move by the bankers to a military dictatorship to come from the military.

  4. creolegenius says:

    I have a new Lobotomy,
    the Temporal variety
    for permanent Psychopathy.
    I forget who bought it for me;
    Bugger Baby-Daddy Frank or
    Co. Mommy Dearest Stanley?

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  7. john says:

    you forgot to mention, that the missiles will be germ warfare, by iran and syria and lebanon, these will be the first missiles hitting isreal, the ground troops , trust me they will use germ warfare , which i am glad , and put the Nazi regimes of israel and the USA to destruction

    • Howard T. Lewis III says:

      The people who start wars and drag innocents into their arrogant mental diarrhea should be run through the landscapers’ chipper machines. This gay bondage crap in the name of the jesuits and neocons and the poop and queen lizard are beneath the spirit of humanity. Nuke the shid out of The City of London and skip a hot one across the Vatican plaza in through the front door. NO MORE WARS. The Bible does not teach depravity. The pope and the freemasons under queen lizard and the church of England teach depravity. It would be fun to watch them fry because THEY REFUSE TO LEARN HOW NOT TO SUCK.

    • horse237 says:

      Does anyone have credible proof of Iranian germ warfare programs?

      I have not seen it. I do not speculate.

      I do admit that Iranian Microwave EMP weapons are a rumor. But they would be foolish not to have them.

      Can you imagine what would happen if they used an EMP device to disable oil tankers? If NATO admitted Iran had EMP weapons, they would be telling their sailors and pilots that the game was over.

      • GoneWithTheWind says:

        I’m a little stunned that in reply to the comment that the U.S. is a Nazi regime your only concern seems to be to make sure the commentor didn’t wrongfully accuse Iran of having germ warfare capability. You are useful idiots!

      • horse237 says:

        Do you have proof that Iran has a germ warfare program?

        There is no proof that Iran has a nuclear weapons program.

        The US is in the grip of Zionists not Nazis.

      • JONES says:

        Zionists are Nazi’s, DECEPTION, think. Those who created the Nazi, are the same ones that rule Isis Ra El. They moved, they went covert, the made everyone chase the rabbit while they murdered and tortured many. The Bush cartel is Nazi, Clinton cartel is linked strongly with the Bush cartel. Operation Paperclip, was the smuggling of Nazi’s, who America allowed to take over their SS/CIA, NASA, and pharmaceuticals. The global agenda was and is above any country. That is why 9/11 was allowed to happen, it furthered the cause of the global agenda over the lives of NY’s who lost their lives that day. America stood down on 9/11, STOOD DOWN to bow down to the GLOBAL ‘cartel’. The ‘sick’ are trying to deepen their stranglehold over humanity, it’s a race for power, they are running out of time, their deception will be exposed. Until then, we must come to the conclusion that this is all very real and we must spiritually connect and reject their sickness. It’s a spiritual war, right now, time to make your choice.

  8. george Archers says:

    US of Israel (NATO) -they are crazy enough to send 5000 nuke missiles onto Iran,just before the 5 minute count down. I got news for the author–the Iranians are NOT GOING to sink a USA oil tanker but the Israelies will do it and blame it on Iran. The Israelies have been promised oil/gas supplies on the cheap no matter what happens. Recall the 100s of Bunker concret bombs shipped to Israel and neighbouring arab countries. These are not body warmers. Jews plan things LONG in advance-just like they did 911. USA is actually the only terror state. Americans are such evil dumb animals–they will use nukes again.
    :^/

    • horse237 says:

      Pakistan has nukes. Russia and China have nukes. No one sided attacks will be allowed.

      A false flag attack on an oil tanker would only help with US voters.

      Iran is capable of response if only for a few seconds which is enough time to take out Israel, Persian Gulf fleet and US Central Command.

      Any Israeli leader who survives in a bunker will be killed by Israeli citizens who survive.

      There will be no war until the dollar dies.

      • Goober Pyle says:

        “Any Israeli leader who survives in a bunker will be killed by Israeli citizens who survive.”

        One can hope, but I doubt it. If they were that smart, they would take the leaders out now.

      • The reboot of the Jeckel Island scam with SDR’ s funding IMF and World bank in this new world reserve currency. Vat and carbon tax paid automatically by interfaced chip on everybody and everything bought and sold and every breath you take. This is the cash flow need to fund the fiat, fractional reserve banking system played out by the 14 trillion interest debt which eats all the income tax revenue. No super destructive war until this is set up. Rothchild needs a new pair of shoes.to keep walking all over humanity.

  9. William Lee says:

    The general claim in respect to the probable course of the mooted war is reasonable, so far as it goes. But it would not stop with the destruction of the fleet (the Persian defeat at Salamis, all forgotten by the DoD, provides the Iranians with a clear lesson) . US domestic political imperatives would require that Iran be “punished” – and so the secondary effect would be the liquidation of Iran no matter the cost, unless comrade colonel Putin steps in (and he may).

    I too would like to see the JAG claim supported, but it’s reasonable.

    Anti-Jewish feelings are understandable, but a distraction. Israel is hijacked by nuts that seem to be cut from nazi cloth, and the majority of us are powerless to stop this racist cadre. I suppose that this is a resonant effect of the nazi pogrom, the victims acting out what was done to them, but that doesn’t help, does it?

    A good careful reading of a modern and thorough history of Salamis is a good idea – it’s the model for the business at hand and probably gives an outline of what will happen, right down to the details of treason and intrigue…

    • Howard T. Lewis III says:

      The real story about the jews first being advised by jewish leaders to go to the camps and hold jobs ‘until the war went away’ before the gestapo arrested them and put them there is interesting’
      Ordnance blows things up. Ordinances guide civil behaviour.
      The other attacks against the U.S. beyond this president with a soldier woody include the self-destructing Fukushima plant increasing in its rate of release of radioactivity, the continuence of release of pressurized oil from the Maconda Prospect oil well blow out ( which was signed off on as intentional by the U.S.Senate but pardoned by President
      Priapism) with over another million gallons of Corexit being added in, killing off most all life in the GoM and vicinity. Add to this , the wall street looting and funds transferred to offshore British Protectorates and the HAARP weather attacks against Mississippi system farmland and weather derivative gaming and the Greenberg theater group being at all the different events to provide actors for commentary and the true scope of the attacks against the U.S. become clearer. America’s recent bad luck has a name. Hit the head of the octopus on this one and war is over for a LONG time. I know the Bush cabal
      could tell us something if these pinheads around me would shut up for a minute or two.

  10. Hasan Ismail says:

    Lets say that USA and its allys win the first attack i mean the usa fleet survive and iran and its allys loosd their attacking forces
    but will the westerns continue winning? I dont think so all iranies are ready to die just to win over their enemies it is a matter of religion (sayid hasan nasrolla once repeated a religous quote as a message to israel “in death u threaten me?! Death is sth normal to us , and our bless from god is marterysm”)
    so in this case the only option for usa to win is to through nuclear bombs above all iran and kill every single child woman and man of the 80 million but would the american gov risk doing that and facing the anger of their ppl against theis monsterous action just to win the war?
    I dont think so so usa could never wio the war any way

    • moose says:

      In reading all the comments, I’d like to point out that after the U.S.A, israel, Iran has the third largest number of Jews. They live in peace and have refused attempts to go “home” to israel.

  11. Hasan Ismail says:

    Sry for bad spelling

  12. lives in reality. says:

    If Iran had enough biological ordinance to cause a problem, the american government, and media would have made a big deal about it already, and used that as another reason to invade Iran on top of the nuclear reason.

    On top of which we (america), would not win any wars at present time, because the industrial base we had to win world war 2 is gone. We do not have it anymore and it would take 2-3 years to get back to WW2 levels which is a far cry from what is needed at present day.

    For those in denial about our industrial base being gone, refer to:

    Made in mexico 1960s-1970s
    Made in Taiwan 1980s
    Made in China 1990s-present day

    There are other countries also but those are the 3 main ones.

    The industrial base of 1 country slowly siphoned off to 3+ countries for 2-3 generations.

    United states win a war?

    No way in hell.

    • horse237 says:

      If you do not believe the Rothschilds want you to lose World War III, please read this:

      The Bankers Want America To Lose World War III

      http://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2011/08/08/the-bankers-want-america-to-lose-world-war-iii/

      • It is quite obvious from where I sit that:

        a) America is being set up for the fall, that they are indeed being sent into a war they cannot win, but which will see the USA ended.

        b) Jews are just as forsaken by those who decide, despite the fact those who decide and work for purpose a) are mostly Jews.

    • Chumbawamba says:

      First, the US Gov does not need actual evidence to make a big stink over any allegation. They just make the allegation, the lapdog press obliges with 24 hour coverage of the allegation as fact, and off we go.

      Second, America’s industrial base is its colonies abroad that manufacture for us. In war time the US Gov will simply commandeer nations that provide us presently with manufactured goods and materials. China will cooperate if the bribe is high enough, but of course that is a double-edged sword.

      But otherwise, you are correct: the US will not win any of its present wars, including the contrived “war on terror”, nor any new ones. I think it is in the cards for us to fail hard, or rather in the script.

  13. EXCELLENT piece Horseman… Kudos indeed.

  14. Obiwan Kenobi says:

    Brilliant Article. It states the very obvious. Perhaps Obama should read this instead of behaving like a Tyrant and Dictator.

    • horse237 says:

      Obama is a Teleprompter reader. He was made President so he could start a race war when the dollar collapses and the nationwide foot riots begin. The goal is to destroy America.

  15. Henry Makow says:

    They (satanic ritual abusing Illuminati) fear the promised 2nd coming.
    Maybe Yeshua was a Palestinian? That’d explain the entry about the Essenes on Wikipedia. Not only that, but also the reason for why Gaza is how it is now, and why the ZioNazis/Knights Templars finally got the land after two world wars and made it into the racist suppressing military state known as modern (masonic) day Israel.
    THE ZIONAZIS HAVE USED AND ABUSED REAL JEWS SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME.
    Google the Nazi Israel coin!

  16. The brain controlling the person in the world with most military power,including the button for A-bombs-has OBVIOUSLY been brain-operated,,as proven by the huge SCARS in his scalp. Do you think this is outside the mentality of the NWO-Lizard-ruled to use such tools?

    • horse237 says:

      Obama is not as smart as he pretends to be. He is third generation CIA. He never attended Columbia University. He is evil but he is not smart enough to plan anything. He is a destroyer. He wants yo destroy America and the white race. He will take the black race with him.

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  18. woww!! Dem A Talk About World War III !!!Gosh!!Mad!Sick Head No Good !!! is This True !?/tell me what do you think please !!!is a Night Mare like !!! is this reality !?? tell me something!!??

  19. Rufus says:

    WW3 is on course. Google Ahmadinejad – Sabourjian and Ahmadinejad – Masonic handshake. The leader of Iran is playing the part that Hitler played in WW2. It is all scripted, and with the preliminary wars to bring the belligerant controlled-nations into close proximity, all that remains is for the media to issue the propaganda excuse to light the fuse.

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  21. I am getting this one out to as many as I can! Excellent!

    Modern “Israel”: the BIGGEST lie perpetrated on humanity in our day and age. Get JEW WORLD ORDER (Kindle, Pubit) and help expose the REAL culprits behind ethnic and political uprisings the past 500 yrs., the Illuminati, world banking/fiancial takeovers, terrorism, Communism, Socialism, Talmudism, ZIONISM, etc., ETC. and the NEW WORLD ORDER ITSELF!

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  23. Gary says:

    As long I stay alive long enough to see Israel get toasted, I say bring it on. I have died and came back already and know where I am going. Only reason that I know of is to tell others. It’s easy to figure out, ask yourself, What’s going on in the world ? Christ like activities or anti ? Prepare yourself, see you after midnight.

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  25. EMP DEFENCE SYSTEM says:

    Hello sir I’ve been studying iranian military for quite a while now, and i have come up with the same conclusion as yourself. But an EMP defence weapon i never heard of it, i’ve heard of emp missile that attacks. If you can disclose your source i would be grateful, if not provide more info thank you.

    • horse237 says:

      An EMP can be used in the form of a High Powered Microwave which is aimed in front of an incoming missile or jet. It could disable an aircraft carrier or a tanker.

      That is why I would prefer Iran used an EMP to shut down the Strait of Hormuz as opposed to mines or rocket artillery.

      Look up EMP at Wikipedia though sometimes it is easier to start your search at Google.

  26. Comrade Red says:

    I, for one, heartily wish for peace and cooperative, constructive, ways of living – but I can tell a hawk from a handsaw. So, let’s pretend… If some party, Russia, China, anybody, was to cause serious problems with the satellite communications and/or surveillance systems, would the US Navy then feel safe enough to either go ahead with an attack or to support an Israeli attack against Iran? Good strategy requires indirect methods – and the Chinese and the Russians have a long history of knowing strategy – 1,000 years or more, much more.

    If that happens, then the opposing parties have a fight based on – what? The only rational response then would be to disengage or risk everything and use, ah, “gadgets”

    This does not mean that people will be rational… And evolving strategy tends to obscure the unchanged Grand Policy…

    Still, every day that there’s no nukes is a good day, eh?

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  28. mikael says:

    Ask the ones that actualy have encountered Russian made wepons, hell the Sukhoy is the best areoplane ever build, its the Russians that invented stealth and USA stole it.
    The rocket systems are also a Russian speciality and dont underestemate their capasity.
    And I belive it to, they wil wait for the spring.

    But from the Iraq war I know that this small boats(swedish?) waterjett powered engines, and they are fast and insanly manuverable, and that sceared the shitt out of the US Navy last time they encountered/observed them.

    But above all its the Nuklear fallout thats is the bigg issue, that dwarfs the rest.
    I have no idea why this insanety is alowed to continue, why.
    The world has gone barking mad. and right now they all howl to the moon and wants to taste blood.

    peace

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  31. PC says:

    Three comments from other people:

    1. Iran’s air force is a joke compared to that of Israel and the USA. Air Supremacy and cutting off supply lines ultimately rests securely in the Zionists’ hands. Iran’s population drain of over 70 million – a figure that has nearly doubled since their 1979 Islamic revolution – is their greatest setback and Achilles heel. Have you taken the strategic realities of any protracted war into consideration?

    2.People that keep posting gong-ho messages about how Iran can do a lot of damage to the US are kind of silly IMO. Iran would not last two weeks against the US in a real war. Its what happens after, when US troops have to go into Iran to institute “democracy”. Then the slow grind will start like Iraq, Afghanistan, or Vietnam for that matter. Its guerrilla warfare that is the weakness of US and everyone knows it. Wearing down the resources; money, moral, and ultimately public opinion.
    The problem is that we had too many wars, and they are very expensive.

    3.I do not believe that Israel alone is the reason for the United States tough stand on Iran.

    The United States champions personal and religious freedom, the regime of Iran does not. The United States cannot descend to concessions and capitulation unless it voluntarily gives up all of our basic principles and interests.

    • Emery says:

      “The United States champions personal and religious freedom”
      Dude you need to wake the f*ck up…… The US brings its brand of FED based economic slavery to everyone including Americans. Ever heard of the NDAA, FEMA camps, 30,000 drones, the Patriot ACT? Gitmo?

    • Iran allows more personal and religious freedom in some respects than the USA but the two are on a par when it comes to internal human rights generally. Iranian politics is largely engaged in moral discussions and actions, even if their morals may be different to yours. The USA only claims to champion personal and religious freedom. As a White Western Muslim convert and although I only live in Australia which is part of the American Zionist empire, I can assure you that religious freedom here is not what it once was and respect for others is at a low ebb. The facts on the ground show the USA to be intolerant, arrogant and terminally hypocritical. It is a nation in crisis and one which the vast majority of the world’s people now wish to oblivion, along with its nasty little parasite state, Israel.

      Your post is ignorant and reeks of the propaganda you have swallowed. I am astounded by the incredible disconnect idiots believe about Islam and its treatment of women. Islam provided they come from decent families. Culture is most often to blame for some regrettable examples.

      • I don’t see Iranians ever allowing the desecration of anyone elses religious beliefs in the way the USA has become known for with one example after another of some nasty attention grabbing blasphemor stealing the limelight in a media which definately can and does engage in self censorship when it is needed….for some parties.

        Regarding the military situation your hubris has gotten the better of your comprehension of this excellent article by Horse. You describe the way the US and Israel think wars are won, without taking into account that none of the real wars (as opposed to regular massacres against unarmed or virtually unarmed) opponents have turned into disasters and as far as winning any stated or implied objectives, their score so far is, oh…… something around zero.

        The USA has other reasons for hating Iran and wishing destruction on it’s independent government, which is the eternal greed which drives the US military industrial complex. However this is also deeply entrenched with Zionists and outright Jewish dual citizen traitors. So really the Israel issue is the only real one driving thsi war with Iran, which only threatens Israel’s existence as an expansionist rogue state, and lessons its ability to dictate to the Middle East and the rest of the world, what foreign policy should be when Israel is involved, in however a peripheral manner. From Its wicked plague of settlers grabbing land they covet to the organ thieving, white slavery, drug and weapons smuggling operations and reserve banking.Upon all this and more of the same, flows all that these people have bestowed upon mankind by way of dealings for the last few decades via its “special relationship” with the USA, indeed one of the main customers of all the sins sold by Israel.

        Yes, Israel. Right of the centre of all things unholy. The hijacked name and identity squatting on ancient holy land, which never saw these Eastern European Khazars before the time between the world wars, yet they had been foretold in coming for thousands of years.

        The USA, Israel and NATO cannot pacify Iran enough within a few hours, a few days or a few years to save the end result which will be a more certain end for all three of those institutions, and good riddance. Iranians know perfectly well what they are up against, They have had ample opportunity to study the tactics and thinking of their adversaries and they are older, wiser and more committed than their adversaies I can promise you. They are also vastly more extremist when it comes down to what is about to transpire, only because when it does, they know full well that unlike the attackers who only say they are defending themselves, they will be defending their very existence. Unlike the Israelis who never tire of repeating how they are threatened with destruction, the Iranians know their foe will seek their complete anihilation and that they will come in hard and their time is limited. Their defensive posture is certainly geared around a rapid and overwhelming response and you can compare relative arsenals all you want, what counts is how much the other side can absorb, far more than what it can dish out. Iran will take all you’ve got and they will still keep charging straight at you with all they have, they will not hesitate to throw their lives away, they will send women, children and whoever will volunteer and I promise that they will all volunteer. You have no idea about Muslims, despite your head being full of “beliefs” about us. As one I can assure you there are many shades of us and although we Shiites tend to be less violent about our faith historically when it comes to determination Iran will teach any Sunni or Wahhabi a thing or two about raw human power. Witness Hisballah who handily handed Israel its arse when last they tangled and using only small arms mostly and a high degree of military skill applying a limited arsenal of missiles. Israel lost 67 of their vaunted Merkava tanks, did you know that? They were sent crying home and when Saddan Hussein’s superior army went at them with full support from the USA “and others”, he ended up needing his diaper changed in a hurry when he realised what he’d gotten himself into. Your Hollywood can portray as many myths as they like, you have seen nothing like the courage your enemies will show and you will be looking as shocked as horrified as they roll over your head.

        All that is without Russia or China even firing a shot. Yet you can be sure that BOTH Russia and China, will honour and even upgrade their positions beyond, the SCO. Even bad leaders like ours would recognise that even with Syria, it is time for China and Russia to step up or they will be next. To be shown to be toothless now will invite NATO to go after them directly, and the USA has already tipped its hand obviously with the interference in the Russian elections.

  32. PC says:

    Another comment I saw:

    To back up [Vidrebel’s above blog], here is an article that discusses a 2002 U.S. naval war game exercise against Iran. The results were disastrous and our navy suffered a major defeat until the navy changed the parameters of the game and defeated the Iranians with the rules rigged in their favor. Our military knows that Iran is not Iraq and will not be an easy pushover.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/12/washington/12navy.html (Iran Encounter Grimly Echoes ’02 War Game – New York Times)

    The U.S. commander of the opforce that defeated the U.S. navy in the war game employed tactics similar to the Iranians strategy and had this to say:

    In a telephone interview, General Van Riper recalled that his idea of a swarming attack grew from Marine Corps studies of the natural world, where insects and animals — from tiny ant colonies to wolf packs — move in groups to overwhelm larger prey.

    “It is not a matter of size or of individual capability, but whether you have the numbers and come from multiple directions in a short period of time,” he said.

    • Howard T. Lewis III says:

      i feeel it safe to say that those hungering for war with iran are beset by too many emotional problems to think clearly and they wish to go out in a delusional burst of glory or have people “LIKE THEM” so they don’t have to be so tense all the time about personal problems. Iran has a lot of the nicest most peaceful people in the world there and only U.S. intervention using CIA killings and bombings using the Mossad plague an otherwise civilized culture.

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  36. This is all very bad, very grim indeed.

  37. Jay says:

    I heard Iran may have bought Chinese missiles capable of hitting and sinking US aircraft carriers. Do you or anyone else know if this is true?

  38. john says:

    i too had a vision of the worlds end when a child of 9. it can be described pictorially as a swarm of ants overcrowding a leaf floating down a river. as the leaf nears a waterfall the current increases slowly to a rush. the speed is fast as the water drops over the edge of the falls. there is a sickening plunge before the leaf and contents are engulfed in the boiling cauldron below the falls. after what seems like an interminable time the leaf and few remaining ants are discharged into the continuing river and float slowly and peacefully onwards. quite disturbing really.

  39. Peekaboo says:

    Iran will be ‘a bridge too far’ for America/Israel. They think Persia will be a cakewalk like Iraq, Afghanistan or even Libya. Delusional.

    I cannot wait for some American aircraft carriers to be sunk in the Persian Gulf, or some cities in Israel getting bombed back to Stone Age. If anything, it will be the reaping of bad karma for all the death and destruction that they have caused in the region.

  40. Emery says:

    Well written article with some hypothetical situations we don’t hear from war monger Zionist crowd. As an American I don’t want to see Americans die senselessly. An attack on Iran will not only do that but threaten the stability and peace of the entire world. It reminds me of these Hollywood flicks with a room full of guys pointing guns at each other. All it takes is one to start the shooting. When its over most are dead. Iran has a lot of military power and anyone that doesn’t realize that is a damn fool. Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya were unprepared. Iran is prepared. American is overextended and very vulnerable. We are also broke and tired of these friggin Zionist wars. However I don’t see this crazy Zionist train stopping.
    Unfortunately I think the ZOG of America will be shocked to learn they are Gog and Magog that gets defeated in the battle of Armageddon. Gog = Zionists Askenazim. Magog = their enablers in the west. Zionized Christians. The Koran teaches Muslims not to make friends with Christians and Jews that are allied with each other. Muslims know Gog are the Ashkenazim Jews occupying Palestine. The Koran prophesies that Gog and Magog will be defeated as well with Jesus playing a key role in the defeat. Zionists try to say that Gog is Russia, knowing that the Ashkenazim Khazar Zionist Jews are the real Gog but they do not wish Christians to understand this.

    “He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious…. If ignorant both of your enemy and yourself, you are certain to be in peril.” -Sun Tzu

  41. Publius says:

    Iran does not want war. The USA may but it wants a cake walk. In the interim oil prices go up, oil is denominated in dollars (for now) and a few people get rich. The international state system is not white hats and black hats, it is simply exercising naked power. All things considered any war with Iran is too great a risk for the new Ottoman Empire of the US, Europe and Israel. However pushing oil prices higher is a benefit for certain parties. As far as soldiers and officers, I have no doubt based on their all too familiar track record in Iraq and in Afghanistan and of course Vietnam that they would shoot unarmed teenagers in the back so shooting rioters in American cities is surely no harder. I suppose they might defer to helicopter gunships or F-16’s like their Israeli allies, or drones or they might simply operate death squads. In any case, this nation is a victim of the Stockholm Syndrome. Stockholm syndrome – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    In psychology, Stockholm Syndrome is an apparently paradoxical psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and have positive feelings …
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome – Cached – Similar

  42. Once it starts, the thing could spread to russian territory. Russia has already warned that if its territorial integrity is violated in any way that her answer would be nuclear. Get a lead suit.

  43. Iran won’t be Iraq! Persia has history of 3,000 to 4,000 years, USA 236 years , Israel 64 years if I was a betting man, looking at the odds I would say Iran to survive the other 2 not, particularly the illegal state of Israel, and probably the USA with it’s illegal Presidents, the only hope for the USA is to clear house of their corrupt politicians and confiscate the wealth of the Rothschild’s and Rockefeller’s and prosecute all Israeli American’s for crimes against humanity.

  44. voice of liberty says:

    military officers do not want to arrest Americans without trial because they would be turned into a sieve meaning Americans have at least 300 million guns and 10 billion bullets.

    HA HA Good for the American citizens and Good for the military
    Long life to America

  45. Elco says:

    Political and military power is a drug as addictive and as destructive as crystal meth.

    For sake of discussion, let us say that an attack of Iran is moderately successful. That is, less than 3 trillion dollars spent, no more than 50,000 US deaths, no more than 1,000,000 Iranian dead, no more than 100,000 Israeli dead and control of the oil resource.

    Do you then think that the war machine will finally be satisfied? Or will it need another fix? Who then, Pakistan, India, Russia, China? Has anyone in our military considered that all those guys might just be getting a little nervous?

    It seems to me that we are on an addicts self destructive path that must inevitably and eventually end in disaster.

    • Kyle says:

      @ Elco,

      Good Point! Even if this thing goes “well” by the standards you stated this will only embolden the Khazar’s for further blood lust.

  46. bs detector says:

    It wouldn’t be the first time that Jews have been set up to be victims so that the Rothschilds can play their games and make more money.

    Rothschild – Blood Shield – someone else will pay for their deeds.

    Just like in their movie “The House of Rothschilds”.

    After Hitler saw what they did to Napoleon, he had second thoughts about his financiers.

    Look waht happened to Eurpoean Jews after the Rothschilds swindled the other bankers in the movie that they made to glorify themselves.

    Anti Semitism is more valuable than gold to them.

  47. bs detector says:

    Keep in mind how much money the oil companies, arms dealers and bankers are going to make.

    Race, religion and nationalism are just to get the SUCKERS to buy the poison which is WAR.

  48. 1000 missiles could be taken out by a few nicely placed ABMs, or even from mobile AA vehicles stocked with ABM type ‘missile shields’. The effective explosive radius so long as continuous, would be able to counter any number of missile attacks while craft can seek out the sources of these missiles. Again it is about numbers but be very sure that a missile shield detonating with ABMs at intervals will not be easily penetrated. Meanwhile do you not think that a retaliatory strike from space can occur? They have dozens of satellites that could be dropped like asteroids . . .

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  55. JONES says:

    I would refer all of you to an Albert Pike prediction from the 1860’s, it is a prediction of the 3 ww’s and pay special attention to what the outcomes will be for ww3. So far, he is 2 for 2 and the 3rd one is shaping up just as he said it would. Once you find out who and what Albert Pike was, a lot of dots start to connect and you see who is really behind the curtain in forming and executing these ‘wars’ and other events. Take into count that it is also heavy in numerology, rituals and sacrifice. “It’s a big club, and you and I are not in it” quote, George Carlin. If you don’t believe it’s real, then you aren’t looking.

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    • horse237 says:

      I took the name Vidrebel because I originally did nothing but add my revolutionary comments to videos. I do include videos from time to time as I did on my most recent article which was about GMO food. America will be up against it when the entire world rejects our exports of corn, soy and wheat.

      This article is a little out of date. Iran has Iran has even faster missiles. And longer range drones.

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  62. if jew’s are the chosen race how is everyone some how related and why is the word jew never mentioned in the Torah. When did the Hebrew Children, Tribe of Judah, Benjamin, Levi or any Israelites start using their maternal ancestry (an old Canaanite practice) instead of their Paternal descendantcy to trace family bloodline’s or determine the heir’s of the Abrahamic Covenant (Royal Grant) God made with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? Thank you to anyone who can help me with these question’s.

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